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  • #46
    Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

    Originally posted by LETZRIDE
    ok you gotta settle this arguement I've been having for awhile...Is our 3.8L camaros classified as a muscle car? I say yes it is...based on the fact that the GNX's were considered muscle cars and we have pretty much the exact same 3.8L engine minus the turbo...so therefore we should be looked at as muscle cars???
    Yes, it is a "Muscle Car."

    Check:

    "Hemmings Rods & Permance," Jan. 2003 pg. 22-27. Talks about GM's 3.8 in GN and F-bodies as Muscle Cars.

    "Musclecar Milestones" (Collector's Edition) Jan. 2006 pg.4: From the Editor, "Go Ahead. Define a Musclecar?" It talks a little bit about GN, and V6 Fbodies in the mid '90's as muscle cars. V6 cars that were faster than most V8 cars in the '70s-and early '90s.

    "..whether it has a six or an eight. Or if it's less that 300 hp or more than 400. I just know it when I drive it."-Paul Zazarine

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    • #47
      Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

      Originally posted by Mighty Thor
      Yes, it is a "Muscle Car."

      Check:

      "Hemmings Rods & Permance," Jan. 2003 pg. 22-27. Talks about GM's 3.8 in GN and F-bodies as Muscle Cars.

      "Musclecar Milestones" (Collector's Edition) Jan. 2006 pg.4: From the Editor, "Go Ahead. Define a Musclecar?" It talks a little bit about GN, and V6 Fbodies in the mid '90's as muscle cars. V6 cars that were faster than most V8 cars in the '70s-and early '90s.

      "..whether it has a six or an eight. Or if it's less that 300 hp or more than 400. I just know it when I drive it."-Paul Zazarine

      BINGO...Im not the only one to say it, thank you Mighty Thor

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      • #48
        Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

        big deal, one mag said it. i could say honda civics are fast, but that doesnt make it true.

        you own a sports car.

        current car- 95 Trans am- bolt ons, parked and collecting dust. why? because **** it

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        • #49
          Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

          a magazine and a book...

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          • #50
            Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

            that makes it better..

            sports car

            current car- 95 Trans am- bolt ons, parked and collecting dust. why? because **** it

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            • #51
              Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

              I win...and I'll sit here until my post count hits infinity argueing otherwise lol

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              • #52
                Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                we are not a sports car, nor a muscle car. we are the economy version of the LT1/LS1 F-body. thats what our cars were made for, plain and simple. we are not muscle...but have the potential to be fast cars with a lot of power. and when i think sports car I think corvette.

                Dont get me wrong I couldnt be prouder of my 3.8L V6. but it was made to be a sizeable V6 that gets better gas mileage than the 5.7L.
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                • #53
                  Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                  Originally posted by LETZRIDE
                  I win...and I'll sit here until my post count hits infinity argueing otherwise lol
                  ill hit infinity first.

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                  • #54
                    Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                    ^he's closer

                    we own mediocre (speed-wise) sports cars, leave the "muscle" for the V8, muscle to me is all about raw straight line performance...
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                    • #55
                      Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                      Originally posted by vanbibber
                      ill hit infinity first.
                      correction: It was Nate.



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                      • #56
                        Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                        I just know it when I drive it
                        3.8 does not feel like a muscle car
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                        • #57
                          Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                          Muscel car
                          1. Any mustang.................. NO
                          2. Shelby's old and current,2003,2004 SVT Cobra........ Yes
                          3. Any Camaro, Firebird..........No
                          4 early model T/As and Z-28s...yes
                          5. Any Hemi or 383,440 cu in Chysler produced vehicle...yes
                          6. any Corvettes...................no
                          7. 427 Corvette....................yes
                          8. Current Corvettes vipers (exotics) no
                          9 any 396, 427, 454, General motors PRODUCED vehicle.......yes
                          10. AMX of any year.............yes

                          This is not a complete list, you think just because our car cu in size is in a car of reputation that you can have that rep. look at it this way: Phyillis Dillor/Pamula Anderson. They both have tits,_____,2 legs, 2 arms, mouth blond hair, etcc.......are they even closely the same woman?

                          Muscel car term has been thrown on too much crap, just so people can sell it hoping for better price.

                          Take Phillis Dillor to dinner and tell every one you took Pamala, see how loud people laugh at you.

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                          • #58
                            Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                            Originally posted by slowpoke
                            Muscel car
                            1. Any mustang.................. NO
                            2. Shelby's old and current,2003,2004 SVT Cobra........ Yes
                            3. Any Camaro, Firebird..........No
                            4 early model T/As and Z-28s...yes
                            5. Any Hemi or 383,440 cu in Chysler produced vehicle...yes
                            6. any Corvettes...................no
                            7. 427 Corvette....................yes
                            8. Current Corvettes vipers (exotics) no
                            9 any 396, 427, 454, General motors PRODUCED vehicle.......yes
                            10. AMX of any year.............yes

                            This is not a complete list, you think just because our car cu in size is in a car of reputation that you can have that rep. look at it this way: Phyillis Dillor/Pamula Anderson. They both have tits,_____,2 legs, 2 arms, mouth blond hair, etcc.......are they even closely the same woman?

                            Muscel car term has been thrown on too much crap, just so people can sell it hoping for better price.

                            Take Phillis Dillor to dinner and tell every one you took Pamala, see how loud people laugh at you.
                            last I check vipers are muscle...and this is how Im looking at it...A gnx has the body of a muscle car...so do we....a Gnx has a 3.8L engine so do we? so whats the difference? and dont say hp cause we have more hp then the earlier v8's...its not about hp...so I think that as long as they consider a gnx as a muscle car, so are we...actually the proper terminology would be "pony car" since thats what mustangs, camaros, firebirds, etc. actually are...so fine we are "pony cars"

                            2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
                            1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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                            • #59
                              Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                              Muscel Car:
                              1. Affordable to average GI of young kid
                              2. built for 1/4 mile Performance
                              3. Base model cars with LARGE motors
                              4. Low optioned models with High HP to weight
                              5. Car designed to be driven everyday
                              6. High horsepower to weight

                              It is not the amount of performance the vehicle has, as in Corvette Viper, etc.. those are truly exotics because most people can not afford to own one or drive everyday. Muscel cars were built just for the young people, Vietnam was going on big back then so GI purchased a lot of these cars, just to go out and drink and race in. In the late 60 early 70s you could do that. Drunk driving was not big a deal. this is why so few are still around, back then I've seen them split in half, motors in the front seat, bumpers touching, They just don't make this type of car anymore. The fast cars now are not priced for the masses

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                              • #60
                                Re: 3.8L camaro muscle car?

                                ok we wont use the term muscle car, cause your right that is for big block engines...the more appropriate term even for the z28's is pony car...I consider us a pony car

                                2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
                                1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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