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  • #31
    edlebrock rules!!!!!!!!!!
    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
    2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
    2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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    • #32
      Out of all the exhausts I've heard, I'll throw in my two cents.

      1. I'm partial to the Loudmouth. LOUD, clean, and definitely muscle car-ish sounding. Gets BETTER sounding as the revs increase. Sounds a hell of a lot meaner than any of the exhausts I've heard sans-headers.

      2. Borla/B&B. I put these together due to two factors: great sound at a HIGH price. Both systems look great, and sound good, too. The Borla has a weird sound as redline approaches, and the exhaust is wide open. B&B has arguably the BEST tips. Wish I could get some of the duals for my car. Their sound is mellow, but pissed off as the revs increase. Does buzz slightly. I've had quality control issues with Borla in the past, and the same goes for B&B for some folks. Most are perfectly happy.

      3. Edelbrock. Cheap and great sounding. Cheap tips worse than the Loudmouth's. However, it's aluminized...don't get this exhaust if you live somewhere with lots of road salt/beach air.

      I've never heard Spintech, Ravin, etc...so I will NOT comment on them.

      I agree with Jason's comment: any of you who think our cars sound like "rice" need to buzz around in a "modded" Civic, Neon, etc. sometime...you have NO idea what you're talking about.

      Add header? Add a much better overall tone. It's no secret. I hate, personally, the buzz of most Flowmaster and some Dynomax systems. However, some of the members I've met have royally fooled me by adding headers to our cars. They make all the difference in the world. I have yet to hear a 3.4/3800 sound bad with headers. James Montigny's 3.4L was quite possibly the LOUDEST V6 F-Body I've ever heard, but it had a great sound. Stefan's Flowmaster system sounds great with headers. I've stated my opinion numerous times about that exhaust, and he changed my mind on it -- so long as the car has headers it sounds awesome.

      In other words...listen around at car gatherings to what the V6ers have. Stop listening to V8 cars and wishing you had that sound -- if you want it, go trade your car. If you want something that sounds awesome, but will not sound like your V8 brethren, listen to the V6 crowd.

      And there you have it. Stop talking about "rice" sounds, etc...your car IS and will ALWAYS SOUND LIKE a V6.

      R

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      • #33
        I have dynomax on my 94 3.4L Firebird atm and i think it sounds great. When you start the car the idle sound is just right its not to loud but its not ricer either. When you hit the gas it sound nice and deep. Ive also heard flowmasters exhaust on a firebird and at idle it dosent sound anything to dynomax and when you floor it sure it sounds decent for a while untill it hits like 3k and it sounds like a honda. Flows IMO are just to ricery. I would go with dynomax or spintech. Ive heard alot of good things about spintech and have heard a recording of one which sounded real nice.

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        • #34
          I still say Flowmaster 80's sound really high at 4.5k rpm. One day at my old job, my friend told me to burn out, so I did. The next day, he told me as I was driving away my car sounded like a Honda. He heard it from outside. That was embarrassing! I admit I only have a catback, stock cat and stock exhaust manifolds, but I don't think any headers and cats can make MY car sound as low at 4k as it does at lower RPM's.

          I do plan on getting a super turbo and a magnaflo cat next week, so we shall see...

          I've drove a 92 2.8 automatic Firebird with a Dynomax muffler... my opinion, it sounded 20 times better than mine! It sounded deeper, even at high RPM's, and a little more mellow than Flowmaster's 80 series. That is a definate plus... sometimes I wish my exhaust was just a little bit softer, so I don't need to make my stereo louder to drown out my raunchy muffler.

          Just my opinion, say what you will about it...
          Massivefirebird\'s <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/leondb\" target=\"_blank\">(leonDB) Cardomain</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/cgi-bin/flowmaster\" target=\"_blank\"> Flowmaster 80</a>, <a href=\"http://www.knfilters.com/\" target=\"_blank\"> K&N FIPK</a>, <a href=\"http://www.jetchip.com/\" target=\"_blank\"> Jet Stage 2 & 180º T/S</a>, <a href=\"http://www.boschusa.com/AutoParts/SparkPlugs/PlatinumPlus4/\" target=\"_blank\"> Bosch quads</a>, <a href=\"http://www.pilotautomotive.com/pilot2dn.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> Pilot 1055 Fogs</a>, <a href=\"http://makotoautotrends.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Clear turn signals</a>, <a href=\"http://www.autoventshade.com/\" target=\"_blank\">AVS rear blackouts</a>... <a href=\"http://www.massiveaudio.com\" target=\"_blank\">2 Massive CW 12\'s</a>, <a href=\"http://www.kicker.com\" target=\"_blank\">Kicker 2252, 652,& 352 XI Amps</a>, <a href=\"http://www.mbquart.com/2003/en_US/home/\" target=\"_blank\">MB Quart</a>.

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          • #35
            I FINALLY heard a clip of what a borla sounds like on a V6. Here's a link http://www.geocities.com/mattyz123/ Click the license plate after you click the link. Honestly, I think it sound worse that the flowmaster I had reving it up at idle. Now, here's a link of a dynomax on a V6 http://www.geocities.com/chriscamaro...camaro-94.html Opinions please. My mind is made up.

            [ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: shortdog273 ]</p>
            <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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            • #36
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by eurokiller:
              How many of you people that trash borla have ever heard it? Most of you just pass around information that you have heard from other people. I have had borla for a while now and I think it sounds great. Borla just has a different tone than most exhaust. It also sounds totally different with the different plates. Some people like it a lot, other people don't. You can't take other people's advice, because what they like you may not.I haven't heard to many other exhausts on a v6 firebird, so I won't say anything. I just hate in when people trash things that they have no experience with.<hr></blockquote>

              This kid used to have Borla on his 97 3.8 and I heard it many times. At every throttle position is sounded horrible. Many people that live in Chicago and post here will agree with me. Yes it's on my opinion and opinion of 20+ others. If it's your first and only exhaust on your car then you are probably partial to it.

              And what's with these emails:
              PHISHFAN9@aol.com wrote
              I have a 93 3.4 and My Borla rear section alone sounds really good. Not as
              loud as it would sound on an 8 but still it a deep mellow tone. And is your
              Dynomax adjustable? I didnt think so.

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              • #37
                Headers--&gt;turbo--&gt;no cat--&gt;3"borla

                = ggggggggggrrrrrrrrreat!

                [img]graemlins/fluffy.gif[/img]
                Chance<br />1999 Grand Prix GTP<br />*stock*<br />1993 Camaro<br />Custom intercooled turbo, BMR suspension, huge stereo, appearance mods......<br />and now most is FOR SALE! :p)

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                • #38
                  Shortdog, both of those sounded like crap.

                  Listen to my flowmaster - no change in piping or manifolds!
                  http://members.home.com/dgo8/TheCard...owmaster80.mp3
                  2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                  Details: www.1lev6.com

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                  • #39
                    I just bought a used SLP quad Tip rear section off a 2001 SS and like it a lot. Sounds great on startup, and good at higher rpms, no rice!! It is not as loud as some would like but has great flow, I'm getting a 2.75 I-Pipe and high flow cat and hope that will make it sound even better.
                    1996 Silver Camaro, Y87, M5, cammed..<br />N/A Best Time: 14.012 @ 98.59<br />195 rwhp / 233 ft-lbs b/f heads/cam<br />Check out my site <a href=\"http://silver3800.cz28.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://silver3800.cz28.com/</a>

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                    • #40
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TheCardinal:
                      Shortdog, both of those sounded like crap.

                      Listen to my flowmaster - no change in piping or manifolds!
                      http://members.home.com/dgo8/TheCard...owmaster80.mp3
                      <hr></blockquote>

                      LOL. Yea, but the borla clip sound the worst. Maybe it's the sound clip. Your clip of the flows sound GOOD. Matter of fact, one of the best clips I've heard. My flowmaster didn't sound nothing like that reving it up at idle. Did you record it from the inside or outside of your car?

                      [ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: shortdog273 ]</p>
                      <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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                      • #41
                        Look the question about the best exhaust system seems to be sound. Some people prefer different sounds. Yes all sound clips will sound bad usually because they are wav files. If you want to know what I am talking about convert an mp3 to a wave file by renaming it with ".wav" at the end. Many people want that nice low rumble sound. My car makes a low rumble at idel and is low through out all though it does get a bit loud at wot. I like the sound of my new exhaust. If you are unsure if you think an exhaust will sound good then just get a big glass pack connected to a big pipe. I know someone will say why would you want to put on a glass pack b/c the rob performance well I know at least three peeps with them and they gained and have never lost power. The best exhaust system should be measured on performance in my opinion and the only way to do it is have the same car,so the test will be controlled, run dynos with differnet setups.
                        1995 Camaro 3.4 v6. Dead<br />1995 Trans Am FIPK.

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                        • #42
                          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by shortdog273:


                          LOL. Yea, but the borla clip sound the worst. Maybe it's the sound clip. Your clip of the flows sound GOOD. Matter of fact, one of the best clips I've heard. My flowmaster didn't sound nothing like that reving it up at idle. Did you record it from the inside or outside of your car?

                          [ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: shortdog273 ]
                          <hr></blockquote>


                          Recorded using a voice mic to tapedeck and finally mp3'd.

                          Voicemic was sitting on the concrete about a yard behind the exhaust.

                          Sadly I think I left my levels a little high so it slightly clips, but hey - what am I gonna do [img]smile.gif[/img]

                          Thanks. [img]smile.gif[/img]
                          2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                          Details: www.1lev6.com

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                          • #43
                            Knowledgefreak, Scott Black, or Zlightning..HURRY UP and get a sound clip for that Spintech!!LOL.. That's one of the clips I haven't heard besides the B&B, Edelbrock, and Corsa.
                            <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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                            • #44
                              i've decided to get the dynomax cat-back system. but... where do they sell it for a 3.4L i can only seem to find it for a 5.7L, will that fit? any suggestions on where to get it (best service/price/etc.) thanks
                              RedlineVSix

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                              • #45
                                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
                                i've decided to get the dynomax cat-back system. but... where do they sell it for a 3.4L i can only seem to find it for a 5.7L, will that fit? any suggestions on where to get it (best service/price/etc.) thanks<hr></blockquote>

                                It will fit with no problem. The hangers might have to be changed. It's most likely a 3" setup so that's your decision if you want the 3" catback.
                                <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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