Performance?

[Blizzard242]

Re: Performance?

Change your rockers. They're so easy.

[Smoke Panther]

Re: Performance?

Change your rockers. They're so easy.

yea, and get that back breaking 200 rwhp

[Blizzard242]

Re: Performance?

yea, and get that back breaking 200 rwhp

He's obviously going for anything easy to do. So why not?

[Smoke Panther]

Re: Performance?

So why not?

considering you can hit those numbers with full bolt-ons (the essentials for anyone who wants to mod their car the right way) and a good tune...nah, it's just something to piss away an afternoon and several hundred dollars with

[flamingchicken]

Re: Performance?

^tell me one car with just bolt ons and a tune putting 200whp. maybe 185ish.

[ssms5411]

Re: Performance?

^tell me one car with just bolt ons and a tune putting 200whp. maybe 185ish.

^ Thats true highest I have seen is around 185 stock dyno with bolt -ons, no cam and Meatyshells with his 1.9 rockers dynoed like 205 or 210 with 105LB springs etc.

[BallerMaro13]

Re: Performance?

you don't think it's possible to gain just 35 on the wheels with full bolt-ons and a tune??

[ne0hisda0ne]

Re: Performance?

what is our stock rwhp, surely not 165 is it? I was thinking maybe 180-185?

[BallerMaro13]

Re: Performance?

unfortunately with close to a 17% loss to the wheels with our cars, yeah it's in the upper 160's rwhp

[ne0hisda0ne]

Re: Performance?

That doesn't add up then for the LS1. Advertised hp is 325hp right? so 17% loss to the wheels would be about 56hp. So around 270 rwhp for the LS1. I read everywhere that the rwhp on the LS1 is 300hp though. Is the LS1 hp rating of the rear wheels or crank?

Doh, sorry...you said 17% for our cars...so what's the loss for an ls1? less than 10%? Is this due to it's drivetrain?

[flamingchicken]

Re: Performance?

what is our stock rwhp, surely not 165 is it? I was thinking maybe 180-185?

the dyno chart i found on K&N website shows like 157, then you bolt on their FIPK kit and get like 164.
found it. http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/57-3041_dyno.pdf

That doesn't add up then for the LS1. Advertised hp is 325hp right? so 17% loss to the wheels would be about 56hp. So around 270 rwhp for the LS1. I read everywhere that the rwhp on the LS1 is 300hp though. Is the LS1 hp rating of the rear wheels or crank?

Doh, sorry...you said 17% for our cars...so what's the loss for an ls1? less than 10%? Is this due to it's drivetrain?

automatic drivetrains cause a loss of roughly 17%. its less with a standard tranny. close to the same with any automatic. the 6-speed in the LS cars causes less parasitic drain and gets more power to the wheels.

[Smoke Panther]

Re: Performance?

^tell me one car with just bolt ons and a tune putting 200whp. maybe 185ish.

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ad.php?t=48299
^Got 188.9 rwhp, and that's with log manifolds and, although larger than stock, a pretty small exhaust

^ Thats true highest I have seen is around 185 stock dyno with bolt -ons, no cam

then you should probably look around a bit more

and Meatyshells with his 1.9 rockers dynoed like 205 or 210 with 105LB springs etc.

He also had headwork done, which a little goes a long way with 3800s

That doesn't add up then for the LS1. Advertised hp is 325hp right? so 17% loss to the wheels would be about 56hp. So around 270 rwhp for the LS1. I read everywhere that the rwhp on the LS1 is 300hp though. Is the LS1 hp rating of the rear wheels or crank?

Doh, sorry...you said 17% for our cars...so what's the loss for an ls1? less than 10%? Is this due to it's drivetrain?

LS1's advertised power was underrated from the factory.

[ne0hisda0ne]

Re: Performance?

is that not illegal? I know it's for insurance reasons, but I mean come on...showing LS1's with just an intake lid getting close to 325rwhp...that's crazy...and bs if you ask me...

[Smoke Panther]

Re: Performance?

is that not illegal?

GM did it for years. Ask anyone on LS1tech

[ne0hisda0ne]

Re: Performance?

well I believe you I was just asking how it can be legal.