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  • Aftermarket Coils: MSD vs. ACCEL

    Can anyone offer an opinion on either one? I plan on replacing mine in the near future and am leaning toward the MSD. Someone posted that ACCEL coils are notoriously bad for our cars, can anyone back this up?
    I think the MSD Coils are pretty new, I just saw them in the new Summit catalog. Does anyone have them?

    The p/n is: MSD-8224


    Thanks for the input.

    -Chris

    [ April 30, 2002: Message edited by: 94bird ]</p>
    <b>94 Firebird, 3.4 V6, Red, M5</b><br /> SLP CAI, Accel 8mm Superstock Wires, Bosch Platinum +4 Plugs, Borla Exhaust, BMR Strut Tower Brace, 180* Thermostat, B&M Ripper Shifter<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird</a>

  • #2
    I've been running Accel Coils for about a month. Not a single complaint.

    But I wouldn't run aftermarket coils with the msd dis-4. Thats an expensive mistake.
    Keith - 99 'maro - White M5 - bumpstick and boltons - 13.65 @ 101 N/A
    "I ain't too big to listen to the rumors, I'm just too @#$% big to pay attention to them" - Dr. Dre
    http://seppo.hopto.org/

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    • #3
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Seppo Kaitainen:
      I've been running Accel Coils for about a month. Not a single complaint.

      But I wouldn't run aftermarket coils with the msd dis-4. Thats an expensive mistake.
      <hr></blockquote>

      I'm not planning on getting the MSD DIS-4 box.
      Just want a new set of coils.
      Trying to find out which ones are best.
      <b>94 Firebird, 3.4 V6, Red, M5</b><br /> SLP CAI, Accel 8mm Superstock Wires, Bosch Platinum +4 Plugs, Borla Exhaust, BMR Strut Tower Brace, 180* Thermostat, B&M Ripper Shifter<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird</a>

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Seppo Kaitainen:
        But I wouldn't run aftermarket coils with the msd dis-4. Thats an expensive mistake.<hr></blockquote>

        Just curious, why not? Please keep me from making a mistake because I'm waiting on the MSD coils to hit summit, and I already have the box.
        <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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        • #5
          The guy I bought my coils from blew up 2 or 3 msd dis-4's before he finally when back to the stock coils.
          Keith - 99 'maro - White M5 - bumpstick and boltons - 13.65 @ 101 N/A
          "I ain't too big to listen to the rumors, I'm just too @#$% big to pay attention to them" - Dr. Dre
          http://seppo.hopto.org/

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          • #6
            i have had my accels for almost two years and i have no complaints
            98 camaro 3.8 (THE PUNISHER)<p>JET STAGE II/B&M SHIFT PLUS/TAYLOR WIRES/SLP LOUDMOUTH w-3\" s- pipe/SLP CAI/SS MESH GRILLE/160 STAT/DERALE OIL COOLER<br />FLEXALITE TRANS COOLER/ 3.42-ZEXEL-TORSEN/KONIG MONSOON & KUHMO TIRES/MANUAL FAN SWITCH/1le sway bars & poly/KYB AGX SHOCKS/H&R SPRINGS/LS1 ALUMINUM DRIVE SHAFT/rk sport headers<p>WAITING FOR INSTALL:ssm heads,cam,3 angle valves/trans go shift kit

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            • #7
              I have the MSD DIS-4 box with Accel coils and have blown 3 Accel coils already. They worked fine before I put the MSD box on, but now I have blown 3 in the past 4 months. I am planning on switching to the MSD coils ASAP but I am running stock coils right now and they seem fine.
              - Josh<br />If you have any questions or need installation pics/help, e-mail me: Viper98885@aol.com<br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/viper98885\" target=\"_blank\">\'93 Camaro Hardtop</a><br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/01lincolnls8\" target=\"_blank\">\'01 Lincoln LS8 Sport</a><br />\'00 Yamaha YZF-R6<br /><a href=\"http://www.ftpp.net\" target=\"_blank\">Full Throttle Performance</a>

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              • #8
                I know that 96Beastv6 has problems w/ his accels. The motor would miss in the higher RPM's. I'm looking foward to the MSD coils. Now I know not to get a box in the future. I wonder if the MSD coils would work properly w/ the MSD DIS4?
                GM 3800 PowerPak guinea pig<p>\"what cam, that\'s just a nasty mis-fire...\"

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                • #9
                  Correct, I was having problems with my Accell coils. Anytime the engine was under heavy load when it was hot outside (as it ALWAYS is in FL) I would get misfires. It would also misfire even under moderate load at in the upper rpms, like RiceCooker said. I went back to stock coils when I started spraying and haven't had a misfire since. One thing I do notice in this thread though, take a look at the regions that people are at where the Accels are working fine: North Carolina, New York, Delaware, Kentucky. You see the pattern there? All northern areas where there are actually real seasons and it's not hot ALL the time. I think that may be the key to the Accel problems.
                  -<i>Travis</i><br /><b>99 Trans Am, Pewter, A4</b> Forged, stalled, and cammed<br /><b>85 Buick Regal WH1 T-Type</b> It\'d be cool if it ran...<br /><b>94 Camaro 3.4, Teal, M5</b> The daily beater

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                  • #10
                    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by RiceCooker:
                    I wonder if the MSD coils would work properly w/ the MSD DIS4?<hr></blockquote>

                    I've been wondering the same thing. Seems like MSD would make sure the two would work together.

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                    • #11
                      Well, they advertise like the two would work together, so I'm gonna go ahead and order them when they're available. I already have the ignition.

                      [ May 01, 2002: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]</p>
                      <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the replies. I'm going to order the MSD's soon. I checked with summit and they are on backorder, if you order them today they say they will ship on 5/15.
                        <b>94 Firebird, 3.4 V6, Red, M5</b><br /> SLP CAI, Accel 8mm Superstock Wires, Bosch Platinum +4 Plugs, Borla Exhaust, BMR Strut Tower Brace, 180* Thermostat, B&M Ripper Shifter<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird</a>

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                        • #13
                          for those of you with msd dis 4 ignition are there certain plugs that WILL NOT work well with the dis 4 ignition?
                          Email: Preki1212@hotmail.com

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                          • #14
                            Does anyone have a picture of the new MSD coils??? i'm dying to see what they look like
                            C. Boney<br />1997 Firebird 3.8L V6<br />---------------------<br />Modifications:<br /> <br /> SLP Cold Air Induction, Ported/Polished Throttle Body, Carsound 3\" High Flow Cat, Sweet Thunder 24\" Chambered Muffler, Removed Rear Exhaust Section, Custom Fan Switch, 35th Anniv. Silver Stripes, Old T/A-Style Silver Sail Birds

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                            • #15
                              I rarely have problems with my Accel's and it is often 100­­°+ here in Kansas.
                              2002 M5 Bright Metallic Silver <br />*Fully loaded and modded<br /><br />2005 GSXR 750<br />*Micron Serpent Race Exhaust *K&N Filter *Power Commander *Trying to hit 200 MPH!<br /><br />1970 SS 454 Chevelle Cortez Silver<br />*It can pass anything but a gas station

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