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Ah yes, this is why I come to this site. This is tremendous help guys. Is there anything I need to do to the front suspension? And, what size wheels and tires would be a good idea?
if you correctly tune your vehicle to spool early on and eliminate turbo lag then yes gears will make tracktion an issue
Wrong, wrong, wrong. You can tune all you want for turbo lag, but with higher gears turbos dont work as well.
Read up on it, ask any of the fast GN guys. None of them use anything higher than 3.42 or 3.23 and they can tune better than anybody on this site. Why? Becuase they understand how turbos/gearing work...
not here to argue with you. but do math basic math tells you power will increase to the wheels. tune it right and it will work. but agreed too much gear can happen i never said otherwise. i am here to help other people not piss anyone off. but for that matter what is your budget.
also with a good hook and a automatic transmission you develop the load neccessary with the flow required to spool. hence tune for early spool. there are alot of other ways because i do understand turbo's and gearing ;)
Yeah, I think im gonna find a rear end with 3.23's in it and a LSD. And.. like I asked before, is there anything you guys would recommend me do to my front end suspension?
Yeah, I think im gonna find a rear end with 3.23's in it and a LSD. And.. like I asked before, is there anything you guys would recommend me do to my front end suspension?
front, umm for 1/4 mile remove swaybar and get springs/shocks... but nothing that you MUST doo
www.turbov6camaro.com 1997 3800 Series II Camaro 4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug: 7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod) 11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty
Removing the front sway bar, from articles and whatnot I've read thats just to keep the car level when turning right? I could be wrong.. so do you guys take it off as weight reduction?
intese has the fastest turbo firebird and they reccomend numerically higher gears. proof enough for me. and you can tune out lag pretty much all out and yes there is too high . obvously you didn't read that i already said that. you have a fast car and you have helped me out some also i am not here to argue just guide. leave harsh criticism out. it helps noone. anyways the sway bar only stabilizes movement of one front tire as to the other. since you unload the front the sway bar will do nothing in the 1/4 only on a course with turns. upgrade your rear to either a solid or preferrably a larger hollow one to save weight and have a better affect. this will reduce body roll off acceleration making the car launch forward more. but a good set of coil overs would be first priority. showdown has a pretty good list, go with that.
intese has the fastest turbo firebird and they reccomend numerically higher gears. proof enough for me. and you can tune out lag pretty much all out and yes there is too high . obvously you didn't read that i already said that. you have a fast car and you have helped me out some also i am not here to argue just guide. leave harsh criticism out. it helps noone. anyways the sway bar only stabilizes movement of one front tire as to the other. since you unload the front the sway bar will do nothing in the 1/4 only on a course with turns. upgrade your rear to either a solid or preferrably a larger hollow one to save weight and have a better affect. this will reduce body roll off acceleration making the car launch forward more. but a good set of coil overs would be first priority. showdown has a pretty good list, go with that.
no they don't i have talked to the cars owner many many times. they run 3.5x gears in that car, because of there rear end they have AND they run a trans break witch spools the turbos since they can leave at what ever RPM they chose. (and the motor is at a high load because of the brake) and its spooling twins not signal turbo
do not go over 3.42 or you will be sorry
you can't compare a 60K full out drag car to a street car and expect things to work the same
i made a thread about this on GN boards the all run the factory 3.42s if they put in 3.73's they run slower
you can't tune out lag, you can optimize it but you can never def phyics with tunning
www.turbov6camaro.com 1997 3800 Series II Camaro 4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug: 7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod) 11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty
The gearing also another reason why turbo cars OWN the highway :)
I might add for a drag car, I would keep the stock springs, especially on a V6. The are really soft and almost anything aftermarket is going to lower the car (not good for drag) and increase spring rate (also not good). QA1 shocks are the cream of the crop for the front end, and they make drag springs too. This allows the front end to extend with minimal effort :)
This had been covered (more than enough times) but I strongly urge everyone and anyone to keep the front bar on a street driven car, and unbolt and/or remove from the car at the track.
good point there. optimize yes not eliminate lag. but i need to ask who has the fastest turbo v6 bird then?
I have not seen any evidence where a tune has made a turbo spool XXX rpm faster. i have heard that retarding the timing can, however, there is no evidence of this nor have i seen any results in my own TNT.
I don't know why you are using one car that runs high 8's and trying to use it to go against years and years of proven performance. As i said already the car has other things on it that can offset the gearing for track use, and the reason why the car runs what gears it runs. this car does not drive on public roads. It is made to go down the track off a trans break (HUGE FACTOR)
www.turbov6camaro.com 1997 3800 Series II Camaro 4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug: 7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod) 11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty
This had been covered (more than enough times) but I strongly urge everyone and anyone to keep the front bar on a street driven car, and unbolt and/or remove from the car at the track.
i have had mine off for the last 1000 miles...... can't really tell :)
www.turbov6camaro.com 1997 3800 Series II Camaro 4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug: 7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod) 11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty
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