Mustang GT vs. Z28

[teal99camaro]

get a maro and do the 98-02 front end conversion

[vanbibber]

lt1s aftermarket is just as good as the mustang aftermarket really. it doesnt cost much more to build an lt1 up as it does a 4.6 or 5.0.

if you find a strong running lt1 it will run just as good, if not better than the 99+ gts. i ran a 99+ gt 5speed with a catback at the track saturday and it was a pretty good race with me winning both times we ran.

basic bolt ons make the lt1 a 13 second car easily. im hoping by next spring to be in the low 13 range with full exhaust and intake, 3.73s,stall and a good tune.

my car as it sits stone stock down to the filter on 2.73s is hitting consistent 14.05s at 98-99mph. so the basic bolt ons will deffinately put me well into the 13s.

just make sure to do your homework on both cars and learn everything you can about each motor(things that will break and go bad) then go look at cars. the more you know now may save you in the long run from having a 3500 pound driveway ornament like i did.

[aa35199]

I would like to pay only 8k because thats what I have saved, but if I find somthing outstanding I'll use the 8k as a down and finance, but the highest I will go is low teens. Having worked on my little 3.4 camaro I picked up alot about the Z28, but I didn't know much about mustangs. I just test drove a 5spd 5.0 and was impressed, (comming from a stock 3.4 I'm not too hard to impress) but I still have to test drive a Z28 if I decide against the mustang I'll start looking for a bird. I knew this was the perfect place to find mustang critics.

[camaro_speedemon]

Just remember the LT1s have Opticrap.

[Yaba3800]

my friend has a 95 mustang 5.0 and its not fast. like he owuldnt beat me by that much any time at all. also car and driver ran a mustang gt at stock 15.2 good luck getting anywhere near a v8 camaro

[4thgenowner]

I would go with the Mustang. The Mustang is more comfortable then the fbody. I love the mod motors. Easy to work on... fbodies are a PITA to work on. I think the sound systems are better in mustangs too.

[camaro_speedemon]

Originally posted by Yaba3800:
my friend has a 95 mustang 5.0 and its not fast. like he owuldnt beat me by that much any time at all. also car and driver ran a mustang gt at stock 15.2 good luck getting anywhere near a v8 camaro

Yea, but the 5.0 has a huge aftermarket. It doesn't take anything to make that 5.0 fast.

And what year are you talking about running a 15.2? Was it an auto, or manual? I used to hang with the 96-98 manuals, and beat the autos in my old camaro.

[KBeezy]

Whether its an SN95 with a 302 or a 4.6 -- all it takes is gears, catback exhaust, and intake to do 13s ALL day long and will run 14s stock with a driver who knows wtf they are doing.


1993/1994 and IIRC some 1995 LT1s, if you want to compare years, have the non-vented opticrap and are best for high 13s.


Plus, like 4thgenowner stated, the Mustang is a LOT more comfortable. What year Mustang for 8k did you look at?

[aa35199]

it was a 95 5.0

[camaro_speedemon]

One other thing I forgot to mention. Mustangs don't have the ginormus blind spot that Fbody's do. If theres one thing I hated the most about my fbody, was the HUGE blind spot.

Im not dogging fbodies, but my mustang is a much more comfortable daily driver then my camaro ever was.

Go drive an Fbody and a mustang and decide which on you like better.


FWIW, I bought my 03 GT for $16,400. It had 36,000 and is fully loaded w/ leather.

For low teens, you can probably pick up a higher milage LS1. Speaking of, might want to contact MTMike, he's selling his 99 Z28. I think it only has 50k miles on it.

[ellik]

my Cobra seats are more comfortable for a short drive than the firebird, but not over the long haul. 5 hours in those seats, and you feel it in your lower back.

[Mighty Thor]

Mustangs is loaded with aftermarket stuff. Probably 5 times more than F-cars. Just look at the different companies, catalogs, and such.

But stock to stock comparison--F-body wins just about every catagories. I collect MT, RT, and Car Driver mag. on Stang vs. F-body since the late 80's.

[1998silverbird]

The only way a 99-04 GT will beat a stock LS1 is either with a power adder or with a full bolt on car that is light and with good suspension and a great driver.. My roomates 01 GT with Longtubes, Prochamber, Cat Back, Underdrive pullies, CAI, upper intake plenum, spec stage3 clutch, TB, MASSair, 3.73's only dynoed 247rwhp and 288rwtq on motor.. On the 125 wet shot he dynoed 355rwhp and 390rwtq.. He went 13.8@99 on motor, and 12.6@112 on the bottle.. Most stock LS1 will go 13.5@106-108.. He had the bottle on his car for 6 months then snapped a Piston rod.. Now have you ever seen a 4.6 piston and rod?? they are tiny.. They are half the size as a GM 3.8.. I have one of my old piston and rod from my 1st 3.8 and his piston and rod from his 4.6 and man the 3.8's are way stronger.. So after he broke a rod he put a bult DSS motor with ported heads and blower cams with a Vortec S trim chager.. On 15lbs he made 420rwhp and 370rwtq, ran a 11.8@118.. Then the POS T45 Tranny broke.. all and all he dumped about 20,000 into his mustang to be as fast as a Heads and cam LS1 ( by heads and cam I mean ported LS1 heads and a small Thunderracing 224 cam)..

Mustangs sound good and look good but Nothing Like a WS6 F-body.. My Trans am put down 330 and 350 with a lid and cat back.. What would a 02 GT dyno with a CAI and a cat back?? My guess would be 230 and 267..

There is a Guy around here that has a 99 GT with the plates TRYMY99.. He has a Fully built 302 stroker Mod Motor with heads and cams. It has Long tubes and all the bolt ons, built tranny, Built rear end , full suspension, skinny fats with MT ET streets.. Yeah his car dynoes 295rwhp and 316rwtq.. It ran a 12.6@106!!! WOW!! Thats about 10-12k into a car to be just as fast but making less power as a stock LS1!! Hell I had full exaust and a 125 shot on my V6 with the stock motor and I made 313rwhp and 433rwtq!! Hell look at my Sig.. I had a 4000.00 dollar V6 motor in my firebird and it made 370rwhp!! My car stomped the crap out of LS1's and LS2's.. I wouldnt even run a GT unless it was supercharged or spraying.. I say build your V6 and build it right unlike me.. Dont rush building the motor and spending all this money to put it in and neglect the tranny and rear..

[ November 16, 2005, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: 1998silverbird ]

[1998silverbird]

Originally posted by Mighty Thor:
Mustangs is loaded with aftermarket stuff. Probably 5 times more than F-cars. Just look at the different companies, catalogs, and such.

Thats because they start out a second slower then a stock LS1 F-body!! All you need is a Heads and cam LS1 and unless you build your 4.6 to handle 15-20lbs of boost you will have no chance against an all motor Heads and cam LS1..

[aa35199]

I decided on sticking with the F-body, the performance differance between a mustang GT and a z28 is way to big. I test drove a Z28 and the 5.7 v8 is way too much to resist, compared to the Z28 that mustang mind as well have been an escort. I'm going to start looking around for a V8 bird soon. Thank you every one for your input.