Snow = Looking for LSD

[GinsuGuy585]

Well we got bombarded with snow earlier this week (NY) and I'm tired of getting stuck on hills (even my 10 deg incline driveway sometimes :mad:) and that Traction light... :rant:

So anyways, since my favorite mechanic gave me a funny look when I asked how much a 4WD conversion for a camaro would cost, I'm in the market for an LSD. From what I've read the governor type let one wheel spin up before engaging (then the other wheel would probably start spinning too) I need something that will prevent spin-up, but since it is a daily driver I can't be shimmying around corners (someone said weld up the diff and replace it in the summer :slap:)

I already purchased snow tires (Winterforce I opted not to get the spikes installed, I think they would shred the tire if I accidentally spun the wheel on dry pavement) and I'm going to go buy some sand bags to toss in the back when I get out of work.

I've tried everything with clutching/accelerating feathering, engaging at idle (using just enough gas not to stall), starting in 2nd, starting in 3rd (needed to break in the new clutch anyway), yelling at things (boosted morale, not traction).

SO people who live in snowy areas: which diff should I get?
I already searched for "snow" in this section and got no useful info

[IDoVoodoo]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

i searched for "snow LSD" and got quite a few results. here's some:

http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...light=snow+LSD
http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...light=snow+LSD
http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...light=snow+LSD
http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...light=snow+LSD
http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...light=snow+LSD

[badinfluenceRS]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

LSD will make driving in the snow worse

[GinsuGuy585]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

I re-read all of the search results, and aside from someone with a Powertrax diff who could apparently plow with it (:) ), and someone using concrete instead of sand bags, I found nothing.

"I already searched for "snow" in this section and got no useful info"

^^^It's ironic that I wrote that to prevent people from just tossing up search results. Not knocking the search system, but there isn't really that much out there about driving camaros in the winter, and which LSD's work in the snow.

SO (again) people who live in snowy areas: which diff should I get?

[GinsuGuy585]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

badinfluenceRS: Can you explain? I thought keeping a single wheel from spinning would help? Would it make both wheels spin?

[badinfluenceRS]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

on dry payment lsd = 2 wheels, open = 1 wheel

although on snow even open you can put the car sideways easy, but with lsd or posi in the winter you'll be going sideways alot easier

just my experience with it, snow tires would help you out the most.

also put a sand bag in the back trunk area

[D_Fisher]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

LSD will make driving in the snow worse

The heck it does! A test drive in my Camaro (w/LSD) and my wifes Mustang (w/o LSD) reveal a clear advantage to having LSD. Without LSD you only have 1 tire trying to move the car. On slippery roads its a constant battle to not spin the tires. While I still have the same battle it is MUCH easier to get moving on the slick roads with LSD.

although on snow even open you can put the car sideways easy, but with lsd or posi in the winter you'll be going sideways alot easier

Cant expect to mash the gas on snow covered roads and not have that happen.

[josh98bird]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

LSD will make driving in the snow worse

....x2

LSD will help if you are stuck at takeoffs... which means you shouldn't be driving anyways... but it will make turns ten times worse

[HokieBird]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

While a LSD will help with traction to a certain extent it doesn't take much to get them both spinning and start going sideways. With or without a LSD your best friend is thin dedicated winter tires and weight in the hatch. You already have those so getting a limited slip would help some, but don't expect miracles. I had a zexel and it still sucked driving in snow. I carried a shovel with me everywhere.

[josh98bird]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

I never have any problems... well I have a few problems but I never get stuck... I always get out. Having a standard really helps out alot. I've always kept good tires on my vehicles (MOM works for COOOPER TIRE) and tires is where its at. It not about LSD or weight, as much as it is good tires. I keep my spare in the hatch for weight as well. Sandbags are good, but I've never really needed any. Drive slow and smooth and you'll be fine. The only problem I ever have is getting up steep hills, which I turn the car around and go in reverse if needed... works like a charm. :D

[greasemonkey]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

if you have a torsen, remember how it works. One wheel has to have at least some traction for the other to spin. So, if your spinning, two foot it, give it some gas while lightly applying the brake and both wheels should spin. With a stick just starting in second gear helps LOT.

With LSD you will go going sideways easier than open, but how much you spin is reduced if you know how to drive.

[IDoVoodoo]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

the op doesn't seem too familiar with cars. I wouldn't recommend a LSD.

[Oi Bird V8]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

buy a beater ..why u driving the maro now anyways

[badinfluenceRS]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

The heck it does! A test drive in my Camaro (w/LSD) and my wifes Mustang (w/o LSD) reveal a clear advantage to having LSD. Without LSD you only have 1 tire trying to move the car. On slippery roads its a constant battle to not spin the tires. While I still have the same battle it is MUCH easier to get moving on the slick roads with LSD.

Cant expect to mash the gas on snow covered roads and not have that happen.

Yes, take off in a straight line is easier until the *** end slides out...

but as already mentioned, lsd or open both tires will slide out easily, technically lsd is worse but the only 'fix' is a soft foot and good tires + some rear weight

[badinfluenceRS]

Re: Snow = Looking for LSD

buy a beater ..why u driving the maro now anyways

best solution right there...my personal preference :naughty: