4.10's

[pgriffith]

How do the 410 gears hold up in the daily commute. I know rpms will be higher on the freeway but how bad? Magnus I know has them and he says the bird is his daily driver. Also would that put me in 4th by the end of the quarter or would I go 5th? I am talking about nitrous runs.

[camaro_zach]

im actually going to be putting 410's in my car and running it at the track. keith is helping me install them. so i will tell you exactly how they are once i have em in and race the car. i will say highway miles arent very fun or friendly. for street driving, 410's are "fine". i dont cry if im doin high revs, there are people that ***** about 373's. so its really all what you are ok with.

[SLOWBRAEATER]

Actually if you send your pcm to zooomer or somebody and get the shift points fixed for the gears everything would be awesome, and you could take full advantage of the 3.73 or 4.10 gears

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SLOWBRAEATER:
Actually if you send your pcm to zooomer or somebody and get the shift points fixed for the gears everything would be awesome, and you could take full advantage of the 3.73 or 4.10 gears<hr></blockquote>

you are still going to be having high rpms on the highway.

4.10s DO pull harder than other gears, but that doesn't always necessarily mean they will make you faster in the quarter. zach--you'll be shifting through four gears--and maybe even 5 when you are at the track. having to take the time to shift 4 different times will definetely not be good on the E.T. we'll see soon though.

[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Only4U ]</p>

[Magnus]

I daily drive the car yes, but I have a truck for the long trips.

4.10's suck on the highway.

[camaro_zach]

lol i shift into 4th with my 3.43's im in 4th for a little bit to, its not the last 10 feet. im doin 92...so im in 4th...

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by camaro_zach:
lol i shift into 4th with my 3.43's im in 4th for a little bit to, its not the last 10 feet. im doin 92...so im in 4th...<hr></blockquote>


then that extra fifth gear shift will most likely occur and will also most likely slow you down.

[camaro_zach]

i will bet you $50 i will not go into 5th, and still, if im SHIFTING INTO FIFTH AT REDLINE IN 4TH im ALREADY F L Y I N G and my times will gaurenteed be less. Magnus doesnt hit 4th with his 4.10, we all have the same final drive, manual or auto. and with the help of a hypertech i will beable to take each gear 500 rpm higher. so i KNOW i wont hit 5th.

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by camaro_zach:
i will bet you $50 i will not go into 5th, and still, if im SHIFTING INTO FIFTH AT REDLINE IN 4TH im ALREADY F L Y I N G and my times will gaurenteed be less. Magnus doesnt hit 4th with his 4.10, we all have the same final drive, manual or auto. and with the help of a hypertech i will beable to take each gear 500 rpm higher. so i KNOW i wont hit 5th.<hr></blockquote>

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chill dude...it was just something to think about. if you don't think you'll be hitting it, then no worries.

[Magnus]

FYI, I trap 98mph in third gear at 6000 RPM's.. As SOON as I cross the lines I throw it into 4'th.

Even if I did shift into 4'th, or a manual shifted into 5'th.. it would be so far at the end of the track it wouldn't really make a difference.. You already obtained your ET, you might just have .5mph less.. no biggie.

[Dominic]

113mph = 6000RPM in the "1:1" gear (3rd autos, 4th manuals) running 4:10s and stock rubber height.

So, estimate 110mph max in that gear for safety right? :D

[Magnus]

Then if you have a very loose converter, subtract 16mph for slippage. ;)

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
Even if I did shift into 4'th, or a manual shifted into 5'th.. it would be so far at the end of the track it wouldn't really make a difference.. You already obtained your ET, you might just have .5mph less.. no biggie.<hr></blockquote>

i disagree. with an auto, you will lose very little e.t. if you are shifting within the quarter mile mark. with a manual, it depends on how well/quickly you can shift 4th into 5th. i know some people that lose a good half a second cause their 2-3 shifts suck *** . 4-5 shift is the same as all the rest, speed and where you are on the track doesn't play as big of a role in it that you might think.

[Magnus]

1 sec shift at 10mph will hurt MUCH more than 1 sec shift at 100 mph.

2-3 shift is very critical.

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
1 sec shift at 10mph will hurt MUCH more than 1 sec shift at 100 mph.

2-3 shift is very critical.<hr></blockquote>

agreed. however, i still think that your e.t. will suffer. the suffering may and may not be worth the 4.11 gear ratio in the rear, but regardless, i think there will be some "power loss," so to speak, that maybe isn't necessary if you went with 3.73s...

i have a friend with 3.73s and he shifts into fourth as he's crossing the line...i think shifting 3 times is better than 4 no matter how you look at it. i dunno, you'd have to use both gears for a bit and get some good solid times with both to see how and if it affected anything. even though 4.11s pull harder, i think the 3.73s in the manual would be about an equal e.t. as 4.11s. just my opinion though, dunno, i don't think many have the time or energy to compare the two like that though [img]tongue.gif[/img]