On my 97' V6 5-speed camaro my gear shifter will spin freely in both directions with out ever stopping. Is that normal or should it not spin?
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Originally posted by victimizati0n:
can you please make your post a bit more clear?
the gear shifter is bolted down, if your able to spin it, then you wolnt be able to drive the car.Matt
1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.
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Sorry for replying so late, but no the shifter is NOT bolted down to the 5 speed transmission. I have pictures to prove it. In fact, if you pull up the shift lever will disengage from the little stub on the transmission and flop over. Yes, this is normal and one of the many reasons I swapped my shifter out for the Pro 5.0.
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I don't know whats up with your shifter, but mine was bolted down the exact same way my hurst is currently bolted down.
Tyler, it's possible that you broke your shifter. I remember seeing a thread about a month or two ago about that happening to someone else. Everyone told them to get it welded, replace it with a junk yard shifter, or get an aftermarket one. I would pull the center console and see what exactley is causing it to spin and go from there.
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I am not disputing the fact that maybe there are other versions of the factory 5 speed shifter. However, Tyler take a look at this page detailing my Pro 5.0 install:
http://www.geocities.com/fenderman49/pro50.htm
4th picture down. There are no bolts holding it down and no threads to strip out. The shift lever at the base is simply a collar that slides over the actual shifter.
I replied to this thread because it seems like nobody will believe that there is an actual shift mechanism that isn't firmly bolted at all locations. Even when I said I have pictures to prove it, I get a "Well, mine isn't that way" response. Heck, even after posting the link above on my install I'll probably still get a response saying it can't be possible. I know for a fact my shifter was bone stock and never touched since it left the factory so there have to be other F-Bodies out there with that same style. So Tyler, it is possible that yours looks similar to what mine did.
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If your shifter or handle comes away from the tranny, it is broken...pure and simple. Pictures or not, that is absolutely not normal.Matt
1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.
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Originally posted by fendermanI am not disputing the fact that maybe there are other versions of the factory 5 speed shifter. However, Tyler take a look at this page detailing my Pro 5.0 install:
http://www.geocities.com/fenderman49/pro50.htm
4th picture down. There are no bolts holding it down and no threads to strip out. The shift lever at the base is simply a collar that slides over the actual shifter.
I replied to this thread because it seems like nobody will believe that there is an actual shift mechanism that isn't firmly bolted at all locations. Even when I said I have pictures to prove it, I get a "Well, mine isn't that way" response. Heck, even after posting the link above on my install I'll probably still get a response saying it can't be possible. I know for a fact my shifter was bone stock and never touched since it left the factory so there have to be other F-Bodies out there with that same style. So Tyler, it is possible that yours looks similar to what mine did.
He is saying the ENTIRE SHIFTER IS BOLTED TO THE TRANSMISSION. I believe its 4 13mm bolts that attach it to the tranny. Same bolts showin in your picutre.
To the original poster, sounds like a weld broke, get a new shifter ASAP imo... or you will be in for a surprise on a hard 1-2 shift and the stick comes out. :)-Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>
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I'm not talking about the 4 13mm bolts that secure the base plate of the shifter to the tranny. The part of the shifter that the knob screws onto (the black rod) is separate from the rod that sticks up from the tranny. Created in two separate pieces. Even GM's service manual confirms this- it lists the parts as separate. There are no welds, no threads, no screws, no bolts, no tape, no glue... nothing. Not saying it is a good design by any means but that's the way it is. The stock upper lever slides over the lower lever and sits there. I also think I would know if a weld broke.... there would be two halves of a bead on both parts of the shifter. Both parts I have are clean and smooth as a whistle. The inside part of the upper rod has rubber inside of it so I know there were never threads in there. The upper part of the rod has no holes where the lower part slides into it so there are no missing bolts.
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Originally posted by fendermanEven GM's service manual confirms this- it lists the parts as separate.
Here's the GM parts manual: http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...ro/Shifter.jpg
Here's the GM service manual: http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...o/Shifter2.jpg
Here's a picture of my stock shifter:
http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...o/Shifter1.jpg
No matter how hard I twist and/or pull, it will not come apart.
Yours just broke. ;)Matt
1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.
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Actually, my gear shift is just fine now.... have the Pro 5.0 and never looked back. I am guessing the reason yours won't come apart is because the rubber is still holding the two halves together.
When I look at the parts diagram you posted which is the same diagram I have, I am referring to parts numbered 5 and 6.
The reason I debated this so much is because when the Camaros were brand new in 99 (which is the year model I bought used a few years later) I test drove a 5 speed on the lot and it had that same spin on the shifter. This Camaro had only a few miles (maybe 10) on the odometer. I assumed that it was broken but then when I bought the 99 I have now it had that same spin. Coincidence? Maybe. When I look at the shifter I see no glue, no rough spots indicating that there was something holding it together, just an upper and lower part that slide together. I just assumed that was the way they were put together.
Whether it was meant to be or not, it is a poor design plain and simple and I am glad that I got rid of it. However when someone asks about a spinning shift lever on a 5 speed this is why. It does not have 2 bolts through the side like the 6 speed Hursts (or others similar in design). The upper part is loose on the lower part and there is no way to tighten it. However, even if the lever comes loose you have to intentionally pull up to the point where you stretch the main boot (that goes over the tranny tunnel) before it will disengage from the lower rod.
My advice? Get an aftermarket shifter and get rid of the stocker. Don't bother wasting your money having it welded or glued.Last edited by fenderman; 04-07-2006, 12:08 AM.
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I know what heis talking about - it spins because its broken, its time to upgrade it to short shift :)
Offtopic: since I have all shifter experts here, I got B&M, and its little bit different than pro5 , but the same idea ; Fenderman, pro5 has those 2 adjustmens bolts, how to adjust them? Do you hear vibrating noise comming from shifter on higher rpms?
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The shaft of the shifter is press fitted into the hollow 2" or so stub on the top of the shifter unit. It has worn loose - and could come out on a hard 1 to 2 or 2 to 3 shift. If it happens on a 2 to 3 - you can break your hand on the dash. (I've done it - very painful!)
It can be spot welded or even epoxied but both a pain. If you're going that far as to remove the console, boots etc. - then put in a decent shifter. I like B & M. And remember - put in a new receptor cup at the same time.95Camaro3.4T5Conv Red/White*SLP Bilsteins*BMR Tower Brace*CAI*NiehoffIgn*NGK PlatPlugs*DelcoHiPerfWires*FlowmasterCatback*RedDe vilReso(no cat)* DynoMax Muffler*B & M Shifter*Eurolite Lamps*Yokohama Avid 235/55/16*GM 3.73s*Auburn LSD*Sirius*All DONE!
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