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  • Overdrive or not to OverDrive

    That is the question. I've always been "raised" under the impression that overdrive is better for a car's transmission, however lately I have had a few people tell me that overdrive is indeed NOT good for the transmission - can lead to all sorts of problems. What is, I suppose, the final say on this - I consult to the guru's!

    Also - how can you tell if your transmission is slipping?

    Thanks!
    <a href=\"http://alternatebw.homestead.com/files/cam19.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">1996 Camaro 3800II Y87 A4</a> (SOLD)<p>NEW CAR:<br />2003 Ford Mustang

  • #2
    If for some reason I am traveling a distance on the Interstate, or at highway speeds, I use overdrive. For normal everyday driving I put it in "3".

    The main reason for this is that if you are not contantly driving at high speed, your tranny will constantly be shifting in and out of the overdrive. While I don't know what the wear and tear would be, I would have to think that there would be some.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: \"WOW!!!!, what a ride!\"

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    • #3
      the drive vs overdrive thing is mainly for people doing towing... used to be if you pulled a trailer in OD you would more than likely burn up the tranny... but, with our cars having newer electronically controlled trannys I don't have a difinitve answer for ya..
      -Brad
      98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
      2000 V-Star Custom 1100
      If all else fails use a bigger hammer!
      :rock:

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      • #4
        The way I see it, Overdrive is simply a 4th gear in the automatic transmissions. Not going into OD when needed would be like not going into 5th on a manual. Overdrive is just an extra gear to increase gas mileage at higher speeds. On our manuals, 5th gear is our overdrive. On Z28's, both 5th and 6th gears are overdrives.

        [ February 27, 2002: Message edited by: 6Banger ]</p>
        Pewter 2002 Z28 M6<br />Black \'98 Camaro 3.8 M5 (Gone)<br />Silver \'97 Camaro Conv. 3.8 A4 (Girlfriend\'s)

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        • #5
          So for everyday driving (stop and go) OD is bad or good?
          <a href=\"http://alternatebw.homestead.com/files/cam19.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">1996 Camaro 3800II Y87 A4</a> (SOLD)<p>NEW CAR:<br />2003 Ford Mustang

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by black98V6:
            the drive vs overdrive thing is mainly for people doing towing... used to be if you pulled a trailer in OD you would more than likely burn up the tranny... <hr></blockquote>

            Exactly.
            Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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            • #7
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by triad:
              So for everyday driving (stop and go) OD is bad or good?<hr></blockquote>

              It's fine. In stop and go traffic you shouldn't be hitting 4th anyway, and if you do it won't be common enough that you are shifting between 3rd and 4th enough to greatly reduce the life of the transmission.

              Think about it another way... Should you just leave it in 1st so that is doesn't shift between 1st and 2nd?

              With towing the thing is that most transmissions are not strong enough to hold in overdrive while under a heavy load, ie towing. Also when towing there is a much greater frequency of shifting going on between drive and overdrive.
              Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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              • #8
                Because our cars are set up to shift out of OD so quickly, I would reccomend not using OD in the city. It is not just, "Another gear" It is a gear numerically smaller than 1, and therefore it reduces the cars mechanical advantage. So, say if you are climbing a hill in od, the engine has to work harder, even if the RPM's are lower.

                Also the constant shifting in and out of overdrive in the city is bad for the friction material (clutches and bands) in the transmission, and will cause them to wear out sooner.
                -Jason<br />Black 1993 Pontiac Firebird -Retired<br />Black 2002 Pontiac Trans Am -Sold-<br />Green 1996 Corvette Convertible -Sold-<p>In the market for \'67-\'73 Firebird!

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                • #9
                  Before anybody says anything else try looking in your owners manual on the description of Drive and overdrive. Then post if you have questions. Also do a search on this site and you'll find info for this question.
                  1994 Camaro<br />3.4L V6 Automatic<br />K&N FIPK&Gold Oil Filter,Ravin Performance Exhaustw/Dynomax MandrelBent3\"I-Pipe&S Pipe&Catco 3\" HiFlow Cat.,ASP Crank and High AMP Alternator,U.D. Pulley Set, Bosch Spark Plugs and Oxygen Sensors, Taylor Wires, B&M E.ShiftPlus, 160 thermostat,Zexel Torsen L.S.D., CSI Remote Mount Electric Water Pump & Temp. Controller & Flex Hoses, ALM. Drivshaft, Diamond SubFram Conn.<br />COMING SOON: 350 or 502 RAMJET ENGINE & Big Block Hood<br />NJ V6 F-Body Club<br /><a href=\"http://tristategm.com/NJFbV6/\" target=\"_blank\">http://tristategm.com/NJFbV6/</a><br />Street Lethal F-Body Association <br /><a href=\"http://www.slfba.com./index.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.slfba.com./index.html</a>

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                  • #10
                    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Skullcamaro:
                    Before anybody says anything else try looking in your owners manual on the description of Drive and overdrive. Then post if you have questions. Also do a search on this site and you'll find info for this question.<hr></blockquote>

                    I don't think this is a question that comes up all that often and have no problem answering it, especially condiering that a lot of information that may have been given in the past is incorrect.

                    I don't recommed you tell people that they can't post on the board.
                    -Jason<br />Black 1993 Pontiac Firebird -Retired<br />Black 2002 Pontiac Trans Am -Sold-<br />Green 1996 Corvette Convertible -Sold-<p>In the market for \'67-\'73 Firebird!

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                    • #11
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Skullcamaro:
                      Before anybody says anything else try looking in your owners manual on the description of Drive and overdrive. Then post if you have questions. Also do a search on this site and you'll find info for this question.<hr></blockquote>


                      My car didn't come with an owners manual - I am still waiting on a replacement.
                      And to the others - thank you for taking the time to answer.
                      <a href=\"http://alternatebw.homestead.com/files/cam19.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">1996 Camaro 3800II Y87 A4</a> (SOLD)<p>NEW CAR:<br />2003 Ford Mustang

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                      • #12
                        Some people say that if you drive around under 40mph in OD too much, it will wear the transmission down due to heat.

                        Simple solution to this topic... buy a shift kit like Transgo. I leave my car in OD all the time and it shifts into gear firmer than silicone t**s. In fact, I tried to compare D and OD with the shift kit and there is really no difference between shifts and firmness so I leave it in OD all the time.

                        If you're worried about heat in your transmission... you can get Lube Gard addative for your tranny fluid. http:/www.lubegard.com That stuff keeps it about 40 degrees cooler! Then install a transmission cooler and that's like an extra 20 or more degrees of cooling... so doing those two tasks will cool your transmission by almost 60 degrees! Which not too shabby.

                        EDIT: here's a better link http://lubegard.com/automotive/trans_atf.html

                        [ March 01, 2002: Message edited by: Liquid Silver ]</p>
                        <b>Sean: 1994 Camaro daily driver</b>

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                        • #13
                          Fine, why don't you try doing a search first on this board. I didn't say that people can't post. But I know for a fact that this question has come up several times before. Don't try and misinterpret what I said in my previous post.
                          1994 Camaro<br />3.4L V6 Automatic<br />K&N FIPK&Gold Oil Filter,Ravin Performance Exhaustw/Dynomax MandrelBent3\"I-Pipe&S Pipe&Catco 3\" HiFlow Cat.,ASP Crank and High AMP Alternator,U.D. Pulley Set, Bosch Spark Plugs and Oxygen Sensors, Taylor Wires, B&M E.ShiftPlus, 160 thermostat,Zexel Torsen L.S.D., CSI Remote Mount Electric Water Pump & Temp. Controller & Flex Hoses, ALM. Drivshaft, Diamond SubFram Conn.<br />COMING SOON: 350 or 502 RAMJET ENGINE & Big Block Hood<br />NJ V6 F-Body Club<br /><a href=\"http://tristategm.com/NJFbV6/\" target=\"_blank\">http://tristategm.com/NJFbV6/</a><br />Street Lethal F-Body Association <br /><a href=\"http://www.slfba.com./index.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.slfba.com./index.html</a>

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                          • #14
                            Second, a simple answer to your question since you don't have an owners manual is that OD is supposed to be used for daily driving and highway driving. D is supposed to be used for towing, steep hill drving,etc.
                            1994 Camaro<br />3.4L V6 Automatic<br />K&N FIPK&Gold Oil Filter,Ravin Performance Exhaustw/Dynomax MandrelBent3\"I-Pipe&S Pipe&Catco 3\" HiFlow Cat.,ASP Crank and High AMP Alternator,U.D. Pulley Set, Bosch Spark Plugs and Oxygen Sensors, Taylor Wires, B&M E.ShiftPlus, 160 thermostat,Zexel Torsen L.S.D., CSI Remote Mount Electric Water Pump & Temp. Controller & Flex Hoses, ALM. Drivshaft, Diamond SubFram Conn.<br />COMING SOON: 350 or 502 RAMJET ENGINE & Big Block Hood<br />NJ V6 F-Body Club<br /><a href=\"http://tristategm.com/NJFbV6/\" target=\"_blank\">http://tristategm.com/NJFbV6/</a><br />Street Lethal F-Body Association <br /><a href=\"http://www.slfba.com./index.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.slfba.com./index.html</a>

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                            • #15
                              When I had my transmission rebuilt, the guy told me to put it into drive while driving in the city, and put it into overdrive when I'm driving on a highway. He told me this would help my transmission last a lot longer. He did a great job on my transmission, and its lasted over 40,000 miles, still going, without any leaks or mechanical problems, so I trust his opinion.
                              Jana<br />-Black,1996 3800 V6 Camaro with T-tops, Powerdyne 6 psi. SC, intercooled, front mounted ATI air to air two core intercooler, K&N Air Filter, Suncoast Ram Air Hood, Z-Style, with Air Box, Four wheel disk brakes conversion, with LS1 front brake conversion, 3.42 Gears, Cross drilled directional Rotors, BMR Strut Tower Brace, Flowmaster 80 Series muffler with 2.5\" inlet, and 3\" outlet, dual, chrome exhaust tips (soon to be full Flowmaster Thunder Series Catback with Pacesetter Headers), Stock LT1 Formula sway bars (soon to be 1LE\'s all around), 17 x 9 ZR1/SS chrome rims, with Firestone Firehawk 275/40/17 tires, Bilstein SLP valved shocks, Eibach springs, SLP Subframe connectors, BMR adjustable Torque Arm, 1LE Aluminum driveshaft, Taillight cover black-outs, Turn signal black-outs, Custom 3800 V6 decal, Off-road pipe, 160 Thermostat, SLP Fan Control Switch, B&M Transmision pan, B&M Shift Plus, Herb Adams solid adjustable PHR, etc.<br />-Soon to be added, headers, lightweight k-member.<br />-All thanks to my wonderful, supportive boyfriend, Rob, with the red hot 94 Firehawk Formula at: <a href=\"http://www.robshawk.com\" target=\"_blank\">Rob\'s Hawk</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.robshawk.com/Jana/Camaro/\" target=\"_blank\">Jana\'s Camaro</a>

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