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  • #16
    Re: Thought

    this guy is a little misinformed on more than one account:

    4th gens were built in Ste. Thérèse, Quebec, Canada

    5th gens will be built in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, (not Toronto "to be exact")

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    • #17
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      yea... i always thought that 3rd and back were US made and that the 4th is canada along with the new one supposedly... so i think he is wrong

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      • #18
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        What's the deal with f-bodies and Canada? i mean, can't we just build them in Detroit or something? Not trying to offend any Canadians here, i am just curious.



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        • #19
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          No kidding. All the old american car factories are in ruins now. No money to tear them down. We need to quit outsourcing so much. What about building in Canada saves us so much money anyway?
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          • #20
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            Originally posted by badinfluenceRS
            I know 4th gens were built in canada
            and In mexico to.:spank:

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by TheGr8Schlotzky
              No kidding. All the old american car factories are in ruins now. No money to tear them down. We need to quit outsourcing so much. What about building in Canada saves us so much money anyway?
              quality and efficiency saves money

              Oshawa "won the JD Power Gold Award for initial quality in 2006, 2005, 2003, 2002; as well a numerous other individual awards for the specific models it produces. In 2007, the plant won silver for initial quality, and a Gold Best in Segment award for the Pontiac Grand Prix, and Bronze Best in Segment for the Monte Carlo. Harbour Consulting rated Oshawa #2 as the most efficient auto plant in North America in 2007. Oshawa #1 is the second most efficient in North America"

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Mike88
                quality and efficiency saves money

                Oshawa "won the JD Power Gold Award for initial quality in 2006, 2005, 2003, 2002; as well a numerous other individual awards for the specific models it produces. In 2007, the plant won silver for initial quality, and a Gold Best in Segment award for the Pontiac Grand Prix, and Bronze Best in Segment for the Monte Carlo. Harbour Consulting rated Oshawa #2 as the most efficient auto plant in North America in 2007. Oshawa #1 is the second most efficient in North America"
                So what exactly are you saying, without my assumption....
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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                  So what exactly are you saying, without my assumption....
                  I'm not sure what your assumption would be. He wanted to know how GM saves money by producing cars in Canada. If Canadian plants make quality cars (meaning less recalls and fewer repairs under warranty) and can do so more efficiently (by using Canada's abundance of hydro power, fewer problems with unions, etc), this means GM's bottom line is higher.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Mike88
                    fewer problems with unions
                    Thats what I was looking for, I didn't even have to say it. Canadian GM plants are represented by the same UAW as here in the US.
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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                      Thats what I was looking for, I didn't even have to say it. Canadian GM plants are represented by the same UAW as here in the US.
                      Canadian GM workers are unionized under the CAW...whether its affiliated or not with the UAW...I don't know.

                      Anyways, regardless of unions, for whatever reason the three GM plants on this side of the border do a good job of making quality cars, and they do so efficiently. That still answers the original question.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Mike88
                        Canadian GM workers are unionized under the CAW...whether its affiliated or not with the UAW...I don't know.

                        Anyways, regardless of unions, for whatever reason the three GM plants on this side of the border do a good job of making quality cars, and they do so efficiently. That still answers the original question.
                        The only logical reason that can be true, is obviously because the only people that work at those plants are former americans who fled to dodge the draft back in the '60s. There is no other explanation, seeing as canadians could not do such work.

                        If any of this is taken seriously, whomever does take it seriously should probably leave the internet.
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                        • #27
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                          ha ha

                          yes, as punishment all American draft dodgers are sent to work in our GM production plants. No wonder they're all so skeptical of "the man" at the car plants.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Mike88
                            ha ha

                            yes, as punishment all American draft dodgers are sent to work in our GM production plants. No wonder they're all so skeptical of "the man" at the car plants.
                            LMAO!!! ^^^ Thats great although all the draft dodgers should be becoming old farts now?

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by IwannaCamarosoBad
                              LMAO!!! ^^^ Thats great although all the draft dodgers should be becoming old farts now?
                              And all of the GM Union workers aren't? Isn't that the reason GM is (was?) falling apart, pensions?
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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Fbody3400
                                And all of the GM Union workers aren't? Isn't that the reason GM is (was?) falling apart, pensions?
                                Could very well have been

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