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  • Lets compare all aftermarket converters in THIS thread...

    Note, this is a comparison thread for ONLY those who HAVE aftermarket converters... track times would be VERY useful here.. as SOTP is worthless with an aftermarket verter. THIS IS NOT A DEBATE OR QUESTION THREAD!!!! so lets keep it on topic!

    This thread is about honesty and TRUTH... so forget BS'ing and keeping secrets.. Lets LEARN together here..

    Lets collect a little info like:
    Brand and size of converter:
    Part #:
    Stall Speed:
    STR:
    Effeciency:

    And a little track info before and after. Lets not talk about SOTP gains either. A big converter is dependant on 60' at the track. If your spinning or aren't launching right then your results are not valid.

    First, a quit bit of info on how you should launch your vertered car.

    After a good burnout, stage the car. Left foot on brake, right foot on gas. Hold the RPM's around 1300. On the third yellow, at the same time INSTANTLY let go of the brake and MASH the gas as hard as possible. If you are spinning then you NEED MORE TIRE!!! If your on a street tire then you'll never get the full gains of the verter. If you MUST be on a street tire, try brake stalling it even higher to soften the launch.

    If you run faster brake torquing it higher and slower brake torqing it lower.. I bet your spinnign when you brake torque it lower. You shouldn't be stalling yoru 3500 stall converter at 2500 from the line or as high as possible.. You need to FLASH it (Brake torque to 1300 and just NAIL it)...

    [ October 29, 2002: Message edited by: Magnus ]</p>
    Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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    I'll start.

    Brand and size of converter: Precision Industries 9.5" OEM Style High Stall Converter
    Part #: I have to dig up the last stall change invoice
    Stall Speed: ~3600
    STR: unknown
    Effeciency: not that great. :(

    Best with stock converter & 3.42 gear:
    2.19 14.9@90

    Best with 2800 verter and 3.42 gear:
    1.91 14.7@90

    Best with 3400 verter and 3.42 gear:
    1.84 14.2@92

    Best with 3400 verter and 3.73 gear:
    1.80 14.0@94

    Best with 3500 verter and 3.73 gear: (Heads/Cam)
    1.80 13.8@96

    Best wtih 3600 verter and 4.10 gear: (Heads/Cam)
    1.77 13.6@98

    Now, I only had my verter restalled once.. however as I changed my combo my stall speed chagnes as well. Those are just guestimates on my flash point. It's very hard to tell.. The only TRUE way to tell is to flash it and DEAD hook.. this only happens at the track where I'm always focusing on other things and not paying attention to the tach. I'll pay more attention next time.
    Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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    • #3
      Brand and size of converter: 9.5" Edge Racing Converter
      Part #: Street Edge
      Stall Speed: 3600 rpms
      STR: 2.60
      Effeciency: 96%

      track times--none with a good tire or lca's. i have the nitto's in the closet and if the guy will ever IM me back, i'll get the damn lca's. was planning to go to the track tomorrow night, but i don't see any sign of the lca's or the guy with them, and i know i'll be having hopping probs, so i'm not going until i get the suspension stuff together. i'll let you know then...
      2000 NBM M6 Camaro Z28<br />323/335

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      • #4
        Brand and size of converter: Vigilante 9.5"
        Part #: custom order
        Stall Speed: 3500
        STR: 2.5
        Effeciency: 97%

        my current set has gotten my to
        14.80 @ 90 on a 2.0 60" w/ 3.42's

        that time was achieved launching at 1500 on stock verter

        no times yet but coming soon on the verter, since the time above i have: the vigi converter, Fast toys ram air, catco cat, LCA's, Prostars and BFG DR's

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        • #5
          Same as Jeff's. No track times yet.

          Scott

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          • #6
            Brand and size of converter:Edge Racing Converter
            Part #:Street Edge
            Stall Speed:3000
            STR:Not known
            Effeciency:97%

            Before converter and tuning i ran a 14.8 with a 2.0 60 foot

            After the converter I run a 14.59 with a 1.86 60 foot

            On spray stock converter and 75 shot NX kit i ran a 13.463 with a 1.76 60 foot

            No times on converter and spray very soon to come.
            <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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            • #7
              track times with worthy-enough tires
              2000 NBM M6 Camaro Z28<br />323/335

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              • #8
                Pro yank (nitrous converter) 3200 n/a and 3600 nitrous
                Torque multiplication 2.8
                Effeciency, 95.5 - 96 %
                Stock converter and 323 gears 2.3 60 foot n/a 15.2 1/4
                Pro yank and 323 gears 1.9 60 foot n/a 14.5 1/4
                Stock converter, 323's and nitorus 1.731 12.8 1/4
                Pro yank, 323's and nitrous 1.631 12.4 spinning 1/4
                I only got the 1.6 once when the tranny was slipping. I have not been able to hook once after everything has been rebuilt. I spin to a low 1.7 60 foot now.

                With mph, I gained 1-1.5 mph n/a with my converter
                I gained 2-3 mph on the bottle

                I do my burn out, stall the converter to 2800 rpm's and then floor it.
                This saturday I will try the flashing of the converter to see if I go quicker.
                Maybe my times will change, who knows
                Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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